After being incredibly disappointed by the release of Sims 4, I was someone holding out hope for Sims 5 that they would have realized, “Hey, people really didn’t want us to do anything multiplayer in Sims 4. Maybe that means we should go back and make an actual good Sims game?” But instead, we get this awful news that Sims will be just like Fortnite, heavily monetized with its own store, basically following the model of Fallout games with creation club, in a sense. Completely the opposite of what players asked for, and crushing all of our hopes and dreams of playing a new Sims game that’s just like Sims 3…

To me, this really kills the entire franchise for me. I don’t think there’s any hope for it, I think this is a death blow, basically an execution of the franchise and turning it into the most low value (to the consumer, mind you) dribble that they could have possibly came up with. There is nothing they could have announced that is worse than a multiplayer version of Sims with microtransactions, that’s basically just Sims mobile that you can play on your PC! Sims 4 is already completely unplayable for me, because there’s no content, it’s just stupid packs and kids and stuff and little micro bundles. There’s nothing fun about the game, and you see people streaming it, it’s just building. That’s all they are ever doing. Just building crap.

It’s even worse that there’s no competitor because it’s so incredibly challenging to make a game like The Sims. Horrifically challenging, life by me was completely gutted and canceled, and that was one of the major games that people were looking forward to. There is still paralives, But they are so early access and have no release date at all. It could be 10 years from now that they finish their game or longer.

TL;DR: Sims 4 ruined by surprise multiplayer mechanics that were removed. Sims 5 canceled in place of multiplayer with microtransaction store like Fallout creation club. Barely any competitors, life by me canceled. Franchise is dead in the water

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    New sims game? This is the first I’m hearing of it. A complaint thread on Lemmy. Game’s DOA

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    I recently was holding out hope for a franchise that was similarly treated. I can tell you from experience that Sims 5 will make a billion dollars and they will then fire all the programmers who made it.

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    There’s nothing fun about the game, and you see people streaming it, it’s just building. That’s all they are ever doing. Just building crap.

    To be fair, that’s always been a reasonable description of games like Sims, Minecraft, and most other simulation style games, depending on personal preference. Maybe the fact that you’re choosing to use it now means you aren’t as interested in that style of game, or even video games in general, as you used to be. Maybe not, but I think it’s worth considering at least.

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      That’s how I’ve felt about The Sims since the first one. It was so boring making my Sim go to work, come home, eat, go to bed, shower, etc. I bounced off it hard and never went back. If someone likes it, good for them, but I’ve never gotten it.

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    Look forward to Inzoi, I think it launches next year, they released the character creator to try it.

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    Do people still play The Sims 4? I bought it like 7 years ago, played it once, got bored, and never picked it up again. I saw gameplay once of the Sims 3 and was genuinely surprised by how many more features it had.

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      The Build Mode features in 4 are pretty good if you’re into virtual dollhouse building, and there’s a ton of custom content for it (as long as you’re on PC).

      Live Mode is not very good, but it’s functional enough to play dolls in the houses you built if you’re willing to do all the story writing to make up for sims not having very interesting personalities/desires/autonomy.

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      But did you buy the hundreds of expansions to bring it to feature parity with Sims 3? Only costs like $1065 for all of them! So cheap /s

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    Life by You’s cancelation was a big disappointment to hear. I figured if any studio had an understanding of emergent intercharacter storytelling in the way a Sims game needed, it was Paradox.

    That said, Para-Lives is still in the works and looks quite promising.

    There’s still hope. Just not from EA.

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      paralives is so slow development though, and the lack of teaser releases concerns me about the quality. I have high expectations for it as well but starting to grow concerned

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      Mmhmm, Paralives looks like it’s going to take the world by storm. I’ve been following their development and they’re doing really good things.

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        Mmhmm, Paralives looks like it’s going to take the world by storm. I’ve been following their development and they’re doing really good things.

        Don’t get your hopes up. It never lasts. These small indie studios create something truly insane that’s so fun and incredible, and then big gaming studios like EA come in and ruin everything. A lot of people seem to forget that Maxis, developer of Sims and SimCity, used to be completely independent. EA bought them out and ruined the entire thing, now they basically don’t exist anymore. Who is to say that the developers of Paralives isn’t going to do the same thing? Guarantee they get a stupendous amount of money offered to them and they sell out, and they would be stupid not to. Who wouldn’t sell their franchise for tens of millions and never have to work a day in their life ever again?

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          Just like ConcernedApe and Stardew, right? Redigit and Terraria?

          I wouldn’t say never. A lot of these indie creators love their creation enough to not sell out.

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          Maxis made terrible decision after terrible decision. They had no money and ea bailed them out and redesigned sim city 3k to actually be possible on modern hardware, while allowing dollhouse to continue and turn in to the sims 1. Then Sims 2 and 3.

          Hate on ea all you want but Maxis fucked themselves up and ea made all of the sims possible.

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      Relative to its time, yes, but Sims 3 is peak Sims. It improved on 2 in every way, but the thing they did the best and left out of 4 was the create a style tool, which allows you to make any surface any texture and colour you like. You could have a wooden sweater and metal carpet. No limits. You could make uncanny replicas of most homes, furnishings and all.

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      I think 3 was, I guess it’s subjective though.

      Maybe the base game of 2 had more features or something, and with 3 you needed add-ons

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    Why is nobody competing with them? It doesn’t seem like a hard type of game to make, and they’re doing such a terrible job that it should be easy to compete with them.

    Who’s got a Sims alternative?

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      The fact that there aren’t many alternatives likely means that making a Sims-like game isn’t as simple as it looks. That being said, there are a bunch of life sims under developement right now (probably because EA is doing a terrible job) such as Paralives, Inzoi and Alterlife.