Ayy bb u up?
Have you heard of Gentoo?
Now that I think about it, that original meme was not true either. My friends always argued about windows vs. Mac, and continued to Android vs. iPhone
Like, people talk about OSes in general conversation
My workplace has this common braindead policy where we have to change our passwords every 3 months. So every time I change it, Microsoft page asks me, “HOW WAS IT?”
Like it wasn’t annoying enough.
I never understood the purpose of this.
Unless you are REAL stupid levels of lucky to have one of the mandatory password changes the day after a compromise that you werent aware of, all mandatory regular password changes do is make people use less secure passwords.
Once upon a time it was a recommended best practice both by NIST and Microsoft if I recall. Both deprecated that practice years ago but most a lot of institutional inertia keeps it going, plus industry standards based on that time that don’t update as often perpetuate the problem.
Technically it reduces the window for a successful brute force.
That said, it comes with serious drawbacks. Mainly making them impossible to memorize, so then users end up just writing them on post-its and putting them on their monitor. Or other equally dumb things.
There’s no purpose. It’s 100% security theatre.
“Security theatre” is what I’ve named the contact in my work phone for the call center I have to call every time I accidentally use the “one time password” more than once (because god forbid they implement proper SSO, meaning I have to do a shotgun login run every morning). When I call them all I tell them is my name and that my account is locked.They click a button and we’re back. Complete waste of time on everyone’s part.
Nothing like TSA level security.
So does mine, and we just got hacked. Almost like users make stupid passwords when required to change frequently.
Best use of that image I’ve ever seen
I’ve been bombarded with Shit about Linux ever since I signed up here.
CAN SOMEONE PLEASE PLEASE EXPLAIN TO ME THE CRAZE BEHIND THIS DAMN OPERATING SYSTEM?!!! I just dont fukin get it! Whats so special about it😭😭
I’ll tell you why I use it: to use open source software. I noticed whatever freemium program I used on Windows that was cool eventually got enshittified and became spyware. Like fucking clockwork, the author of uTorrent sold out and all the new versions became cancer
Linux has better support for a lot of open source software, you can use a package manager to download most of it, and flatpak for a bunch that’s not there
It’s just so much easier than trying to find the official site for the program you want.
I drive Linux for a similar reason to why some people prefer driving manual transmission cars to automatics.
Automatic transmission cars are ideal for a certain kind of driver that has no interest in how the machine actually works, they just want the machine to do its job as smoothly as possible without them having to think about it. Not bothering with the details is the whole point.
For those of us who do have an interest in knowing how the vehicle works, automatics become kind of suffocating. They’re designed to only ever behave in certain specific ways. If there’s a weird niche thing that we know is possible for the machine to do with manual control, but the automatic system doesn’t support, you’re just SOL. You can’t. This starts coming up in all sorts of annoying little ways, increasing in frequency as your knowledge increases. Death of a thousand cuts. You start feeling like you’re not really driving this car, you’re being taken for a ride.
Windows is like the automatic. It is a black box designed to allow people who don’t care how the computer works to use the computer. To prevent morons from breaking the internal components, they put up barriers around everything and tell you to keep out.
Linux is like the manual. Yes, it does demand more finesse and active knowledge about how the computer works to drive properly. But you’re in maximum control of it. If you want to pop the hood and tinker with every facet of its innards for whatever reason, it does not attempt to stop you. It’s all open, laid bare for you to do whatever you want with it.
Linux has a lot of options available to make it more automatic like Windows, if you want it. The difference is that the automatic-ness is completely optional in Linux. Imagine a car that can be automatic most of the time when you don’t care, but can become manual at the drop of a hat when you need it. Linux can be that if you want it to be. Windows can’t.
So, you’re saying that people driving automatic cars crash more often than manual transmission drivers?
(Ignore the people that shift into reverse at 180km/h)
Lemmy generally attracts the same kind of person that would also use Linux. Both of them are open source and community driven alternatives to software otherwise provided by large corporations and milked for every last cent. Both of them require just a bit more knowledge in order to comfortably use them. Linux with all the distro’s and desktop environments, Lemmy with all the instances and apps/front-ends. We’re very much a bubble here.
There are political, practical and aesthetic reasons to choose GNU/Linux as an operating system.
Political Reasons
The Linux kernel, various components from GNU, a large part of the software library etc. are released under Copyleft licenses such as the GNU Public License (GPL), which cannot be revoked. This prevents a lot of evil shit the corporate world likes to do with software. It also menas it can’t be taken away; My license to copy, examine, modify and redistribute the Linux source code is irrevocable.
The kernel and much of what goes into a Linux OS these days are largely developed by larger corporations (Red Hat is now owned by IBM) but a lot of the app ecosystem is community driven. A lot of applications in the Linux ecosystem exist because someone wanted the tool to exist, not because someone begrudgingly accomplished something to increase shareholder value.
Practical Reasons
The vast majority of Linux distros are provided free of charge.
The majority of Linux distros are lighter on system resources than Windows; Windows’ system requirements have forced a lot of perfectly functional hardware into retirement where they run just fine with Linux.
With a few notable exceptions the Linux ecosystem is free of the ads and spyware built into Windows these days.
Microsoft has a habit of rearranging their UI kind of for the hell of it, meaning constant retraining for users. In the Linux ecosystem, only Gnome is in the habit of making drastic unasked for design changes, and it’s very much not a user’s only choice.
Microsoft has a lot of monetary incentives to be user hostile. Not a lot of people use the Microsoft Store to search for software because much of the software the userbase wants competes with a Microsoft product, so they aren’t found in the store. For example, Edge is the only web browser found in the Microsoft Store. Microsoft will not distribute a product that competes with one of their own. A typical package manager on Linux is full of actual useful software and is the preferred way of managing software on Linux. In fact, Windows is basically the only platform that hasn’t managed to make a package manager or app store the default way of handling software.
Microsoft has been eroding the end user’s ability to control or even own their devices. Linux does not become unusable for several minutes due to updates the way Windows does. Linux doesn’t routinely take away features the way Windows has been doing lately.
Aesthetic Reasons
Windows is becoming less customizable as time goes on. Linux is only getting more impressive. It’s not difficult to make the experience YOU want on Linux. Windows doesn’t let you put the Taskbar on the side of the screen anymore. Get a load of this, I’m using Fedora KDE right now. By default there’s a thing that works very much like the Start button on Windows; icon in the lower-left corner that pops up a menu from which to launch applications. I can right click that, click “Show Alternatives” and I can have a full screen thing similar to the MacOS launcher, a smaller cascading menu type thing that works like the Windows 85 Start menu, or by default a two-pane thing that’s more typical of Linux systems. It’s just so much more flexible.
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Windows is a privacy nightmare. The OS is constantly sending data to Microsoft while being used.
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Windows hogs resources. If you don’t shovel money out for new hardware every few years, your computer will run like shit.
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Windows is full of ads.
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The majority of malware is written for Windows. Not really a selling point for me, but it’s a bonus.
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Linux is free.
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Linux doesn’t force updates. You update when you want to, and it takes less than a minute to do.
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Think about why you joined Lemmy. Reddit has been getting greedier and greedier, so you left to a place where the grass is greener. The same thing is true with Windows and Linux (and Linux is also much more big and mature than Lemmy). It attracts the same kind of people.
Oh- huh… I mean Im outta the loop as to what Windows is doing thats so awful as well as what makes Linux so amazing.
@Cock_Inspecting_Asexual Things like, for example, putting ads and tracking into an operating system you paid money for?
Windows user:
*Complaining about ads on their desktop
Me, a linux enjoyer:
*inhales*
Linux user complaining about having to add repositories manually in order to get a piece of software to update or to add a tool they need.
Me as an any operating system user. Both have draw backs that aren’t for normal people.
Adding repos is a one time thing that takes like 10 minutes tbf. And even then there are gui tools for that funny enough.
Ten minutes? What are you doing for the other eight? Basking in the warmth of a job well done?
I use EndeavorOS which draws from Arch repositories including AUR. I’ve never once had to manually add a repository.
Not knocking you but there is also a reason the “I use Arch memes” exist.
Because we want everyone to know how SUPERIOR arch (and derivates distro) is so they can get in the fun? 😁 /j
Windows 11 has changed this, many many people now warn other people about not using Windows 11 because it is such shit. Doesn’t matter what you run, just don’t run Windows 11.
More windows hate circlejerk.
Just upgraded to windows 11 and really like it. What’s so shit about it?
Doesn’t let you just do whatever you want. I turned off the windows firewall in windows 7 and went on with my life. Windows 11 wouldn’t let me download updates with the firewall off.
“We like the clean design and improved performance of Microsoft’s latest operating system, but it still suffers from its fair share of issues. Here’s what people gripe about the most.”
And they don’t even mention the ads or that Recall garbage
thing that takes screenshotsbeing forced on you even though the public made it obvious they don’t want that. That and all the telemetry; it’s pretty much spyware disguised as an operating system.I’m sure there are more things but those are just the ones off the top of my head.
*Edit: I remembered the name of Recall
Most of those are tiny gripes, and to be honest I don’t care at all about most of them. The OS looks nice, runs well, and is pretty painless. That’s all I want in an OS.
windows 11 isn’ all bad. It made my mother ask me to install linux on her computer.
I gotta be honest, I actually really like windows 11.
Recall is awful and I hope enough pressure keeps it away (or at least as something you have to manually turn on). But besides that it’s mostly just windows 10 but better. I get better battery life, better performance, I actually mostly like the UI changes etc.
Also does nobody remember all of the hate for 10 when it first came out?
Unusable on a hard drive, would just freeze while scanning all your files. Wouldn’t let you turn it off
No one outside of tech communities does that
Even the people I know that are otherwise relatively tech savvy don’t do this.
Not to say it’s a good operating system, though.
That happened with Windows 8 and Vista as well. There was a running joke that every other Windows release was garbage when I was growing up.
That happened with Windows 8 and Vista as well. There was a running joke that every other Windows release was garbage when I was growing up.
And the joke works with 8 and 10 both being shitty, because they skipped 9, which would have been the good one.
They really should have gone with Windows Nine, to bring the naming scheme in line with Xbox One while also avoiding the
startswith.('Windows 9')
issue
You will need to after Oct 2025 unless you want Linux or Mac OS
No… I’ve literally only seen this on Lemmy. I’ve never once encountered anyone in real life that does this.
Edit: and to add, people really don’t like this. I love Linux, but hate this community at this point. It’s disingenuous and I see blatant lies all the time about where I’m going to see ads in windows. I’ve yet to see any ads at all so far.
I’m going to argue that it’s very unlikely any of those people are friends or colleagues. It didn’t ask if you recommend Windows on social media or forums.
We’re not friends? 🥺
Sry, who dis?
Betrayal.
Given your name, I think it’s for the best.
Hey! How dare you discriminate against me for my job! MODS!!! SIEZE THEM
I would always start all conversations with my friends with “Hey Windows peasants!” If I had any friends. These two things have nothing whatsoever to do with each other.
I met a vegan who uses vim and arch linux. I’m that guy. I use vim and arch linux, and I’m a vegan.
Why don’t you use emacs? You can replace Linux with it and use it to start vim!
omg bestie
vegoon btw
we be vegooning all night
“We are all vegooners on this blessed day”
-Ken M
😼
Have you considered CrossFit?
Why is your username blue?
Edit: sorry. You’re OP
I swear Linux users are borderline jehovah’s witnesses going door to door