• ASDraptor@lemmy.autism.place
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    14 hours ago

    You need to be born to be a person. Otherwise where do we set the limit? Maybe for medical reasons, we should set it at a certain number of weeks, but for non medical reasons should be considered the moment of birth. Otherwise when does it become hatred? Can I say “I hate fetuses under 4 weeks” but not “I hate fetuses of 12 weeks”?

    Following that logic, someone could consider masturbation as a crime, and menstruation too.

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      14 hours ago

      Well, you see, I am a malicious entity that doesn’t need to listen to your logic. All I need is the power that you have given me.

      For your rules, since I am the malicious entity in charge, I can just say “I’m right, you’re wrong”, and there is nothing you can do about it.

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        14 hours ago

        But what I said can’t be twisted. To be a person you must be born.

        There is no interpretation there. A fetus is not a person because it hasn’t been born.

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          6 hours ago

          You don’t get it do you?

          “Nuh uh.”

          There. That’s all I need to say to nullify everything you say. Because I have power and you don’t.

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          14 hours ago

          Ok, let’s say it a different way.

          You have blond hair, but the person who delivers your mail hates blonds and refuses to deliver to you. They deliver mail to everyone but you, and because there’s a rule that says the postal worker can choose who they want to deliver to, you can’t force them to.

          So now you have to go all the way to the post office to pick up your mail because you have blond hair.

          That’s the crux of the argument.