• Mwa@lemm.ee
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    10 days ago

    for that value just get a pc honestly not a locked down freebsd based console

  • Don_alForno@feddit.org
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    10 days ago

    It would be so funny if the EU decided Sony was a gatekeeper on the consoles without disc drives and forced them to allow 3rd party app store on them.

    Hey, a guy can dream.

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      10 days ago

      What the EU actually needs to do is to spearhead and help find everyone a way to actually “own” digital things. I think I’d be fine with not having a disk drive if I could buy my game, not be reliant on servers to download it in the future, trade my games with friends, and choose to sell it when I felt like it.

      We need to find a way to get back (most of) the benefits of physical media without actually having to go back to it.

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        10 days ago

        “If a game needs a server and the official servers shut down, the protocols have to be released to the public”. I think it would be a good starting point.

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    11 days ago

    This is yet another nail in the coffin of physical media. Or, in other words games you actually own instead of long term lease.

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      10 days ago

      Or, in other words games you actually own

      Newer games rarely have the entire game on the disc. Usually there’s mandatory patches that must be downloaded to play it. I’ve seen games where there’s only a few hundred MB on the disc while the whole game is maybe 15 or 20 GB.

      This means you don’t really own the game, since if Sony (or Microsoft or whoever) take down the downloads for the game, you won’t actually be able to play it any more.

      Essentially your choice is between a physical license key (the disc) plus a download of the game, or a digital license key plus a download of the game.

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      11 days ago

      It’s not like physical media makes any difference anyway these days.

      Actual disk often gets just a glorified installer, and even if it includes the entire game you’re likely to have to activate it online anyway.

      The “own your games” ship has sailed long ago, unless you only buy no-DRM and your own backups.

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        11 days ago

        unless you only buy no-DRM and your own backups

        Going to have to plug GOG here as these are both things they offer. I try to buy games there instead of Steam, purely for this reason.

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        11 days ago

        The difference is the price of buying discs vs. buying from a digital store that has no competitors.

        I’ve bought almost exclusively second-hand discs for my PS5, because they’re like half the price for the exact same content.

        Sadly it’ll probably be just a matter of time before those will be phased out as well, one way or another.

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    11 days ago

    One big reason people still play on consoles to this day is because they own a physical copy of their games and can play on their consoles even offline.

    Sometimes

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      10 days ago

      I couldn’t play Baldur’s Gate 3, a single-player game, when my internet went out. That pissed me right off.

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        10 days ago

        Yeah that’s what I meant by sometimes

        Its becoming a trend where game companies are now making single player games require a internet connection just to play. I saw some games on Steam where single player games come with anti-cheat, like wtf.

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    10 days ago

    I think the steam deck is genuinely the only console worth buying these days.

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    11 days ago

    At $700 you could build a pretty decent PC that would last a lot longer (3060 12gb, Ryzen 5 5600, 16gb of DDR4), and build a steam library that you’ll have 20 years from now. I’ve had the same monitor, keyboard and mouse for an easy 10; controllers don’t last that long. They’re reaching a point where there’s less and less of an actual argument for owning one.

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      11 days ago

      build a steam library that you’ll have 20 years from now

      How do you know that Steam will be around in 20 years?

      Use GOG instead. The DRM-free game installers will outlive Steam :)

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        11 days ago

        How do you know that Steam will be around in 20 years?

        Use GOG instead, since the DRM-free game installers will outlive Steam :)

        How do you know Windows will keep compatibility in 20 years? Valve money partially goes into Proton/WINE development and an evolution of that will absolutely be around in 20 years, just WINE was around 20 years ago already. CD Project doesn’t put any GOG/Cyberpunk money into breaking the Windows monopoly. (Also plenty of titles on Steam come without DRM because DRM is optional.)