This case is heartbreaking.
He confessed! Shame on those lawyers for this trash narrative.
No adult would blow up their whole life at the age of 71 if this was consensual.
Mme. Pelicot is a hero to women.
Off topic and pedantic question. I’m not a native english speaker so, please don’t take this in any other way.
In the last sentence you said “hero to women”. Is that the correct usage? Or should it be " heroine to women"?
Good conversation on the topic here
Basically, it is becoming more common in English writing to use the masculine “hero” as gender neutral when the figure is a famous and/or historical figure.
If it is a fictional character, “heroine” is still widely used.
There’s been a wider trend of using gender neutral terms in the language. “They” as a replacement for “he” or “she”, for example, used to be improper but is now quite widely accepted and not only when speaking about a non-binary person.
“they” has always been proper, it just used to be incorrectly taught agaist like split infinitives and ending a sentence with a proposition.
Wikipedia dates its first usge as over 500 years ago, and complaints less than 300.
*preposition. Many people end sentences with proposition ;-)
While I can believe that some of the men were of the impression that it was part of a roleplay of some sort if told so by the husband, the simple thing is that she did not consent. It’s rape.
There is no situation in which the decision of consent can be transferred to anyone else.
I was talking to my wife about this yesterday, and ultimately this is a kink that’s dicey as fuck. There’s no way to play it 100% without running the risk of rape.
I mean, if you’re a guy who gets off on women being asleep/passed out when you have sex with them, knowing that they’ve given express consent kinda kills the vibe. But you can’t expect to have sex with someone who hasn’t given you express consent.
So in the end I fall down on having zero sympathy for the guys who claim they thought she was in on it. She’s either told you it’s cool or she hasn’t.
Initially I figured that the story was that the guys were made to believe that it was her fantasy, not theirs, simply because I find it unlikely that he’d be capable of even finding 50 guys with that kind of fantasy.
I have personal no experience in this, but I suppose that’s the purpose of “safe words”, which will allow someone to participate in that kind of roleplay featuring imaginary non consencual sex until someone yells “Oklahoma”.
Anyway, with it happening in some small village, I can imagine how they could be oblivious to any proper way of doing that sort of kink, but it can never remove their own responsibility of not having concent.
Put in a more straightforward way: I can not allow you to punch your friend in the balls. Only your friend can allow that. Regardless of how many times I tell you it’s okay, it’s just not okay, until he allows it himself, which has nothing to do with what I said.
